Price cap details - regional breakdown

[jzak]

@joanne%E2%9D%A4jesus London is sustainably developed ie dense

 

[quietthinker]

@cbmiller Why is London more expensive? Surely higher population density is cheaper to supply to

 

[christiangirl1991]

@quietthinker Not really seeing the expense here. Others are more expensive and the standing charge difference is crazy from London and everywhere else.

 

[larsonmcl]

@quietthinker Because companies seem to think everyone in London is some flash banker with stacks of cash.

 

[truthseeker70]

@larsonmcl I don't think that explains the 1-3p difference, I'd like to hear the actual justification at some point

 

[unrespectful]

@truthseeker70 increased cost of localised Infra due to wages and pop density

 

[heartnsoul19]

@quietthinker Check the standing charge, yo.

Sincerely, someone in the South West.

 

[quietthinker]

@heartnsoul19 Coincidentally I'm on holiday in Cornwall at the moment! I meant the cost per kW more than the standing charge, its the majority of the cost on most bills and London used to be cheaper so I just wondered why its changed?

 

[danihalley]

@cbmiller I know it would be difficult with gas supply, but in theory couldn’t you and your neighbours share an electrical supply from one house and split the cost of the price cap? Asking for a friend.

 

[kethabile]

@cbmiller Of course london has the cheapest standing charges…

 

[underthemercy]

@cbmiller Can someone explain this to me please.

If the price cap is £3,549 does that mean the maximum say Britishgas could charge me is £295.72 a month on standing charges and what Ofgem assumes is the average usage lets say 3000kwh a year on electric and 12000kwh on gas a year? Obviously if i use more i pay more but if i use less do i also pay less or is this cap the lowest i can possibly pay now (Dependant on the company choose to floor it with the cap)

My current electric bill is between £180-£190 on electric alone and it goes up to £250 (This month) if i use my Hottub for 2-3 weeks.

If this helps my last 3 bills were in usage for electric was,

27 April - 29 May = 576kWh

30 May - 26 June = 591kWh

27 June - 29 July = 796kWh

All charged at 27.952p per kWh with a 51.520p standing charge per day.

Can anyone help give a rough estimate of how much my bill will increase by please. I assume i take the current price cap and deduct that from the new price cap and divide that by 12 to get a rough guide of how much it will increase by per month.

So as an example: £3500 new price cap - £1500 current price cap = £2000 increase \ 12 months = £166.66 more a month on electric.

I guess it would be spread out between gas and electric but as i don't use much gas the only price hike would be mainly the standing charge and very little i use for hot water as i never have my heating on etc...

EDIT: What's with the downvote for asking a question so someone can correct my mistakes and help me understand.

 

[cbmiller]

@underthemercy Ignore the headline figure of £3549, that's based on the average consumer. It'll be purely based on your unit rates listed here.

 

[resjudicata]

@cbmiller The West Midlands causally missing?

 

[cbmiller]

@resjudicata It comes under Midlands, the DNO is Western Power Distribution.

 

[christmasbaby]

@cbmiller Thanks for posting this - very helpful

 

[clarionation]

@cbmiller I assume you're using the standard credit figures, ie paying quarterly when you get a bill - is there any reason for that? Most people will be paying by direct debit so would be getting the other payment method rates.

The numbers Ofgem publish also don't include VAT so you need to multiply them by 1.05.

Edit: The numbers I've worked out (which seem to match up with the MSE ones) are:

Region
Elec standing
Elec unit
Gas standing
Gas unit

Average
46.355
51.886
28.485
14.758

North West
43.259
51.324
28.485
14.755

Northern
49.93
50.088
28.485
14.627

Yorkshire
49.545
50.877
28.485
14.671

Northern Scotland
51.072
50.917
28.485
14.704

Southern
44.413
52.074
28.485
14.885

Southern Scotland
50.664
51.611
28.485
14.704

N Wales and Mersey
48.596
53.831
28.485
14.771

London
33.157
53.646
28.485
14.937

South East
42.678
53.163
28.485
14.723

Eastern
38.936
52.905
28.485
14.737

East Midlands
45.768
50.866
28.485
14.664

Midlands
49.145
51.575
28.485
14.761

Southern Western
52.643
51.708
28.485
14.853

South Wales
49.168
51.821
28.485
14.822

 

[heartnsoul19]

@clarionation

The numbers Ofgem publish also don't include VAT so you need to multiply them by 1.05.

Are you fucking kidding me?