savedlongs

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Dear all,

I'm new (and young) in the Investment field and therefore have some issues to understad the different details related to taxation.

I tried to read different posts in this amazing forum (thanks to all the contributors!) but I don't get fully the concepts therefore I hope you can provide me a better overview.Let's use some examples:
  1. I have some Pounds and therefore considering this Bond XS1859424902 (domiciliate in USA and currency in pounds). How can I see in ICTax the % and the value of tax per year if I buy 1000 Pound?
  2. What if the Bond is NOT in ICTax? is there a rule of thumb I can consider?
  3. Have Corporate bonds and Goverment bonds different taxation criterias?
  4. Is a Zero Coupon Bond taxable for capital gain? Example: one Bond is issued in 2023 at 100, in 2024 goes to 80 and I buy it. The Bond expire in 2025 where will achieve again 100. Will I pay capital gain when the Bond expire?
  5. Same as point 4 but what if the Bond is not a zero coupon? How can I calculate the overall taxation? maybe as an example again XS1859424902
  6. For tax purpose, should I also consider the domicilie of the Bond? Where is the best domicile (Switzlernad and USA only?) If for example, the domicile of the bond is in Italy, should i consider the additional taxation in Italy?
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Thank you all for the help. Really appreciated.
 
@savedlongs In general you can summarize all your questions in two answers:

Any coupon payment is taxed as income, period. No matter the source, no matter the domicile etc.

Zero coupon bonds are taxed as capital gains, and I would advise against buying any. They are tax inefficient and I dont know how you would handle them in a tax declaration.

Some old longer bonds that lost a lot of value, due to the rise in interest raste, and that have low coupons are pretty good tax wise now, because their price appreciation is tax free.
 
@savedlongs Pretty much, and it‘s basically only possible now, as we are coming out of a long stretch of very low interest rates and many bonds with these super low coupons existing, that are also currently priced very low. Pretty unique situation.
 
@savedlongs To your question no. 2

What if the Bond is NOT in ICTax? is there a rule of thumb I can consider?

You write them an email and they will add it in just a few days. Ideally write them ahead of time, not at the tax deadline.
 

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