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(This is an extrapolation from https://dol.ny.gov/pua-documentation)
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Please. Also consider reading this clarification/explanation:
[sup]This clarification exists mostly because of [this question and answer on a UIPL Guidance letter]( [/sup], which predates the CAA, the federal legislation that came out 5 months after this was written, which included the need to substantiate connection to the United States job market in the same calendar year immediately before the claim, for the calendar year that occurred prior to the claim. Also see the notation on the discrepancy below, in Additional Considerations)
[h4]-----Deadline to Submit Docs-----[/h4]
NY DOL has extended the deadline in an announcement on Twitter for all submissions to July 1st, 2022
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The document that demonstrates connection to the United States job market must represent the connection within a well-defined time frame:
"If the claim began on March 29th 2020, the document needs to represent sometime in between January 1st, 2019, and March 29th, 2020"
And/or
"If the claim began on March 29th 2021, the document needs to represent sometime in between January 1st, 2020 and March 29th, 2021"
This is why
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[sup]The vast majority of all Pua claims started in 2020, and that is why the very first question here asks about 2019, as this would be by far and away the time frame in which the most people who filed a Pua claim would be producing a document that demonstrates a connection to the United States job market before their claim began, however as you just read related to the time frame, it is simply that the document must represent sometime before the claim in the same calendar year, and/or in the calendar year that preceded the year in which the claim was filed, so, if your claim started in 2021, simply replace the 2019 below with 2020.[/sup]
This is why
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1. Did you perform any tasks for money in 2019, even if it was "just a little bit / a few sales/all cash/freelance, etc, OR an unpaid internship? [sup]regardless of what state the work was performed in, because after all this is a federal request[/sup]
A. Were any of these in employment or self-employment?
B. Were "you were planning to begin self-employment but were unable to work due to the COVID-19 pandemic", or "you were offered employment but were unable to work due to the COVID-19 pandemic,"?
2. Do you have any w2s, pay stubs, earnings and leave statements, or any other documentation demonstrating that you are paid by an employer, including 1099 for mis-classified employees?
3. For 2019, do you have a 1040, a schedule c, a 1099, business receipts, business licenses, state or federal employer identification numbers, or, if not, can you get an affidavit signed by a previous client indicating that you are employed in self-employed work.
C. Did you do a little bit of self-employed work, but you did not file taxes, or you did file taxes but you did not report the self-employed work because it was so little? [sup]There is no minimum threshold of earned self-employed gross income to file a Schedule C, although gross income above $400 is taxable[/sup]
4. New York website says:
For Pending Employment
5. So you did not work in 2019, you did not do anything for money, you were not in any conversations for hiring for employment or self employment, and no one would provide an affidavit that there was an offer of employment, including the criteria required? Then unfortunately, see this reply
6. Great, then you have a solution. You need to file your 2019 taxes if you have not already, or you need to amend your 2019 taxes. You're going to probably need to work with a qualified tax professional, after you do this you'll be able to submit your schedule C and you'll be able to comply with this request. See this excellent self employment wiki. Not complying with the request is frankly catastrophic for your life, all other outcomes beyond submitting the schedule see are acceptable, therefore There is no deadline to file taxes late and if there is a penalty it is certainly less than the catastrophic consequence of not submitting the schedule C. There is no minimum amount of income, nor positive, nor negative, nor number of sales in order to file taxes for 2019. You need to file taxes for 2019 to get your schedule C to submit to this request to comply not doing so is catastrophic for your life. The time it takes for a qualified tax professional to create your tax return for 2019 and your subsequent Schedule C is about 1 hour, whereas you have 3 months to comply with this request so Gather what documents you have from yourself employment from 2019, take them to a qualified tax professional and have them file taxes for 2019. Because you have 3 months to complete a task that takes 1 hour, I am sure that you will do fine. On the website for New York does it say, that the tax documents must have been previously accepted by the IRS to be valid? No it does not, that is not written anywhere, however, can we both agree that the likelihood that the 2019 taxes will be accepted within 3 months is extremely high? [sup]¥[/sup]
7. NY has 2 requirements for you:
[sup]This post may be updated as corrections or additions are made. It is your duty to ask if the information is up to date.[/sup]
(This is an extrapolation from https://dol.ny.gov/pua-documentation)
[h4]------Added-------[/h4]
Please. Also consider reading this clarification/explanation:
[sup]This clarification exists mostly because of [this question and answer on a UIPL Guidance letter]( [/sup], which predates the CAA, the federal legislation that came out 5 months after this was written, which included the need to substantiate connection to the United States job market in the same calendar year immediately before the claim, for the calendar year that occurred prior to the claim. Also see the notation on the discrepancy below, in Additional Considerations)
[h4]-----Deadline to Submit Docs-----[/h4]
NY DOL has extended the deadline in an announcement on Twitter for all submissions to July 1st, 2022
[h4]-----Timeframe-----[/h4]
The document that demonstrates connection to the United States job market must represent the connection within a well-defined time frame:
"If the claim began on March 29th 2020, the document needs to represent sometime in between January 1st, 2019, and March 29th, 2020"
And/or
"If the claim began on March 29th 2021, the document needs to represent sometime in between January 1st, 2020 and March 29th, 2021"
This is why
[h4]----Troubleshooter-----[/h4]
[sup]The vast majority of all Pua claims started in 2020, and that is why the very first question here asks about 2019, as this would be by far and away the time frame in which the most people who filed a Pua claim would be producing a document that demonstrates a connection to the United States job market before their claim began, however as you just read related to the time frame, it is simply that the document must represent sometime before the claim in the same calendar year, and/or in the calendar year that preceded the year in which the claim was filed, so, if your claim started in 2021, simply replace the 2019 below with 2020.[/sup]
This is why
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1. Did you perform any tasks for money in 2019, even if it was "just a little bit / a few sales/all cash/freelance, etc, OR an unpaid internship? [sup]regardless of what state the work was performed in, because after all this is a federal request[/sup]
A. Were any of these in employment or self-employment?
B. Were "you were planning to begin self-employment but were unable to work due to the COVID-19 pandemic", or "you were offered employment but were unable to work due to the COVID-19 pandemic,"?
2. Do you have any w2s, pay stubs, earnings and leave statements, or any other documentation demonstrating that you are paid by an employer, including 1099 for mis-classified employees?
3. For 2019, do you have a 1040, a schedule c, a 1099, business receipts, business licenses, state or federal employer identification numbers, or, if not, can you get an affidavit signed by a previous client indicating that you are employed in self-employed work.
C. Did you do a little bit of self-employed work, but you did not file taxes, or you did file taxes but you did not report the self-employed work because it was so little? [sup]There is no minimum threshold of earned self-employed gross income to file a Schedule C, although gross income above $400 is taxable[/sup]
4. New York website says:
For Pending Employment
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Letter Offering Employment - This letter must include the name of the employer who issued the letter offering employment, the employer’s address and phone number, and the date of the letter offering employment. -
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Statements or affidavits by individual(s) verifying the offer of employment - The affidavit must include the date of your pending employment, name, and contact information for the person(s) verifying your pending employment.
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Business License, State or Federal Employer Identification Numbers, Written Business Plan(s) - The business plan(s) should include the name of your business and the date of the plan. Lease Agreements, Other Documents
5. So you did not work in 2019, you did not do anything for money, you were not in any conversations for hiring for employment or self employment, and no one would provide an affidavit that there was an offer of employment, including the criteria required? Then unfortunately, see this reply
6. Great, then you have a solution. You need to file your 2019 taxes if you have not already, or you need to amend your 2019 taxes. You're going to probably need to work with a qualified tax professional, after you do this you'll be able to submit your schedule C and you'll be able to comply with this request. See this excellent self employment wiki. Not complying with the request is frankly catastrophic for your life, all other outcomes beyond submitting the schedule see are acceptable, therefore There is no deadline to file taxes late and if there is a penalty it is certainly less than the catastrophic consequence of not submitting the schedule C. There is no minimum amount of income, nor positive, nor negative, nor number of sales in order to file taxes for 2019. You need to file taxes for 2019 to get your schedule C to submit to this request to comply not doing so is catastrophic for your life. The time it takes for a qualified tax professional to create your tax return for 2019 and your subsequent Schedule C is about 1 hour, whereas you have 3 months to comply with this request so Gather what documents you have from yourself employment from 2019, take them to a qualified tax professional and have them file taxes for 2019. Because you have 3 months to complete a task that takes 1 hour, I am sure that you will do fine. On the website for New York does it say, that the tax documents must have been previously accepted by the IRS to be valid? No it does not, that is not written anywhere, however, can we both agree that the likelihood that the 2019 taxes will be accepted within 3 months is extremely high? [sup]¥[/sup]
7. NY has 2 requirements for you:
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Code:
If you were employed by the Peace Corps, AmeriCorps, and educational/religious organizations, you may use the documents above to substantiate your employment or... -
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Documentation provided by these organizations (if you cannot provide any of the documents listed above. Please note, this documentation must include the organization’s name, address, and phone number. It must also indicate your employment relationship to such organization.
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Signed affidavits from person(s) verifying your attachment to such organization - The affidavit must include the name and contact information for the person(s) verifying your employment.
- [sup]€[/sup] Plural implies both the offer letter and affidavit. Remember, the deadline for submitting this is 3 months. Only have 1 doc? READ THIS
- [sup]¥[/sup] For more information here is some basic troubleshooting about the timeline of submitting tax docs
- For more information about this requirement and the fact that it was not in the beginning Pua application for March 2020, read the bottom of this reply this request is a federal request for all states to substantiate your connection to the United States job market in the year prior to your claim, it is not a re-adjudication of your job separation due to the pandemic/shutdowns.
- This request applies to recipients of Pua claim benefits, on or after 12/27/2020. If you receive the request you need to respond. If you receive the request and you're not sure if you did or did not receive money from a Pua claim on or after that date, it is going to be extremely difficult to call, perhaps a couple hours, whereas if you have the documents it will take 5 minutes to respond to comply.
- If you are deemed ineligible based on an inability to provide documentation, this will affect payments made on or after December 27th 2020, unless the overpayment determination is also accompanied by determination that the claim was based on fraud in which case it is possible that all benefits paid in the benefit year can be deemed and overpayment, in addition to fraud penalties. We have not seen anyone in this position yet. (source)
- Timeline of when are you going to hear back about submitted docs
- The New York PUA Documentation guidelines do not exactly match the federal guidelines, and this is in contrast to other states whose guidelines do match, view the notable discrepancy, AND on Twitter they say they'll accept docs "proof of self-employment or employment in 2019 (or in early 2020 if you worked then before losing employment.)" and Another One
- How to Upload docs: "Go to pua.labor.ny.gov and sign in with your username and password (same that you use to sign in to unemployment portal) and you should see options to upload proof." from @musabonez
- Don't know where your W2 is or how to find it? Try these workarounds/suggestions
[sup]This post may be updated as corrections or additions are made. It is your duty to ask if the information is up to date.[/sup]