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@redwolf6 Again, I’m not sure anyone would want to work for a place or manager that is out of date and sees moving around as a negative. Back in the 90s 2-3 years was seen as a negative, The world is changing and this is becoming the norm even in senior roles. We’re not even talking about...

@redwolf6 Chances are people wouldn’t want to work for a company who sees advocating for yourself as a negative. There are many companies and recruiters on my black list. Do companies tell you up front that they don’t bother to do the work to retain employees? Now THAT would be helpful and...

@virtuous77 Then reward them appropriately so they don’t move. For good staff make the job you’re offering better than they can get elsewhere. Simple. This is another lie taught to GenX to keep us underpaid. The latter generations don’t buy that b/s.

@jamalh Oh boy. What a bizarre take. That and the reputation scare mongering reminds me of mediocre middle managers whose main job is to keep salaries low.

@jamalh I’m not sure how I’ve misunderstood you saying that testing the market is bad for your reputation. It’s not wasting hiring managers time as that is their literal job but even if it wasn’t why would that be a priority over using it as leverage to get a better result where you are...

@jamalh Yes, it is a lie we were fed. The fear mongering about reputation is classic GenX rhetoric. As if knowing our value and acting on it is a bad thing. Wild. Not sure about you but I don’t want to work for a place or management that considers me advocating for myself as bad for my...

@jamalh I did misunderstand slightly but I still disagree. People decline offers for all sorts of reasons. It’s not unreasonable for someone to do it especially given we often don’t know what they’re offering until we go all the way through the process. Again, the onus is on them, not us The...

@psalms91baby You’re right that definitely makes a difference. But niche employers often also have niche employees. I’m in STEM with transferable skills and when I’ve worked in smaller industries the same names and faces popped up in each new company I joined.

@jamalh No it’s not. That’s a lie GenX were taught to keep us underpaid. We don’t owe them shit. It’s bad form to not test the market and often to make sure we get the best deal for ourselves. That includes money, title, company, location etc etc. The onus is on management to retain talent.