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@tcm1 The thing is even rural CA is expensive, I'm near Dallas which I would call MCOL and fast approaching HCOL, and it's still cheaper than rural CA.

@resjudicata I said this in the same post elsewhere. I'm from California, Orange county recently redefined it's poverty line as $83k for a single earner. $115k for a family. This study says a family of 4 is middle class at $69k, or about 1/2 of what the county defined as in poverty.